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Mass cheating in the ongoing Codeforces "Contest 2050 and Codeforces Round #718 (Div. 1 + Div. 2)"
By abhi_2001, 3 years ago, In English

Hey guys look what I've found today on youtube.. Mass cheating in the ongoing codeforces round #718. Its very shameful to have these people in our community.. Due to these cheaters, hard working people in our community are not getting the results they expect.There are also several telegram groups having a large no of participants.. .It's the link of the video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66d2M0iOcp8.The video may be deleted so please look into it asap Codeforces Round 373 (Div. 1) Rebelz littlelittlehorse xyz2606 jqdai0815 MikeMirzayanov.

The link is not working now coz video is now private. Image of the video Please upvote:)

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Please remove the link until the contest ends at least, or more cheating will happen.

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    after that the video will itself be removed...so whatsoever action should be taken should be taken now .

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      Yes, but abhi_2001 could have contacted Mike directly. I doubt they'll delete the video because they literally said that '[they] want watch time'. I copied the Google Doc with the cheat solution to my account just in case though.

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    removed :)

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By this mass cheating their rating might increase but their skill will not change

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    Some HRs treat Codeforces rating as something that correlates with person's qualification, so people cheat on CF to get a job.

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      They might get shortlisted, but they won't get the job.Still they are taking the place of talented people during the shortlisting.

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      Even if, they get the job, do you think that they will stay long in that organization, with such an attitude? I guess such folks would be fired within a few months or during their training period, if they not meet the targets.

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        but they already would've taken the place of deserved ones.. that's the issue...

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          Can't deny that either. :(

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          I don't see these people clearing the interview rounds just on the basis of CF ratings tho.

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    Exactly ,they'll learn nothing by copying and pasting and the people who actually try to solve the problems may instead get lesser rank ... this surely is a matter of concern..

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      Its kind of discouraging for genuine users.

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    But due to these people hard working people suffer as there rating is stuck and not increasing which is highly demoralising.

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      completely agree with you when I started 3 years ago the platform was very much clean but now a days huge cheating is done.

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let not codeforces become codechef

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I found a youtube channel that uploaded A solution of atleast today's and previous round A solution.

We can clearly see from this link a submission of the person from which I identified his profile.

Take some action against this guy.

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    Mike or someone from cf team should now publicly announce some very hard action against this guy. I think that is the only way to let the message reach to dumb people like him.

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      Very hard action like what?

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        kill them

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          good one

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          LOl, in that case, Mike's blogs would be after every contest like :

          List of people that are going to be killed for cheating in cf#(round_no)

          person x, person y, .....

          Good luck, have Fun

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          No, it's not the codeforces way.

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        hang them by the Balls for the duration of every upcoming contest!

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          Yeah also include the system testing time in ball hanging time.

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            Haha yes indeed system testing time must be included where if they fail the system testing...you know what might happen...

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              Imagine including 12 hours of hacking phase in edu and div3s . Balls will become gumballs.

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        10 years hard labour in gulag

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        you can make their rating to 0, contribution to -200.

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    The fun part is this guy takes 2-3 wrong attempts and over one hour to solve A and then upload it without any try to solve B.

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I wonder why mass cheatings are more common during rounds rated for everybody?

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    I think it has to do with "more rated users in a round" = "more positive delta for you" if score high?

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I had to leave codechef because of the same thing was happening in long challenge..

Try CF not to become CC.

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abhi_2001 Do you have any idea, which all questions did they cheat on?

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Well, I am totally against these practices and not supporting them in any way but just want to ask a simple question: What were you dong in middle of contest searching for solutions on youtube? Again, I am not supporting cheating at all.

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    maybe he was checking on the guy who was distributing the answers , after his contest was ovet ...BUT my ques to u is if u solve ques my your hardwork would u not check who the hell and why is anyone distributing answers like this ??And we should appreciate his efforts to shed light on these type of events ....not everyone has courage to raise voice ,knowing that these things are happening ..Community should take some actions on these activities ,so that only harworking gets the fruit MikeMirzayanov

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      Plot twist- This guy was searching for solutions, but he could not get the solutions at that time, hence posted this blog.

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        Hello detective qwxxq I put the blog while contest was going on and also I wasn't registered for the contest.So,kindly don't use ur super intelligent mind if you can't appreciate the effort.

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          It was just sarcasm man. You seriously need to chill a bit O_O

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            On a similar note, I assume that him calling you "super intelligent" was also sarcasm, lol.

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why in every contest we get to hear same things about cheating on youtube or on telegram. I don't understand whats the point of taking part in a competition which is meant for your personal growth .The owner of the video might be genius enough to solve the problem within the time and that too posting it within time. But this social work is of no use man trust me!!. please don't take part in such activities.

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To be honest, here's my thought process. Since its a well known fact that cheaters are there, then now i have to prepare myself to answer first 3 problems in 20 minutes and solve atleast 5 out of 7 so that i maintain my lead. Cheaters can't solve all questions. That's where if u really solve problems can exceed by solving 5. They solve 3. u still rank better than them

There's a hidden power solver's have. Their appetite for problem solving and mastering concepts. All you have to do is 10 x your effort.

I hope you guys got this [PERIOD]

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Codechef long challenges were fun somedays when i didn't know that cheating happens,i had to leave that, let not CF go the same way

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Cheating like this normally should only affect the lower rating pool. More reason to improve yourselves.

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You can see that the solutions shared on youtube during the contest are mostly problem A or B of div2. Through this you can get the idea that they were unable to solve C problem. Also the max rating you can achieve by copying solutions of A and B after an hour of contest ( cz that much time will be taken atleast for the youtuber to solve, upload and then people to watch and copy ) will be 1200-1300.

But obviously this is unfair to everyone, and please I urge the codeforces community to not convert it into codechef. And people who think they can land a job with good rating, let me tell you, you have to undergo a coding test before sitting in a interview, which you have to give all by yourself and no youtuber will upload the solutions for it, so yeah go ahead.

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The cheaters should watch this Good will hunting(Plagiarism). The real value of rating can only be understood by someone who is genuinely working hard and improving slowly, rather than cheating and getting a hike at their ratings.

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cheaters should study harder to share solutions of more problems. Sharing just A and B is too poor to be a cheater, bro

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Can we make ratings private for each user. Will that help for reducing the cheating thing?.

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If someone is caught red handed , cf can make him unrated again and ban him for 10 contests.

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Maybe we can ask CodeForces to make first 2-3 questions dynamic in Div-2.

The questions will be changing in every 30 Min and there can be timer running for this or a separate time frame for each question as per the difficulty.

This will really decrease cheating and promote healthy environment.

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