illegalfreedom's blog

By illegalfreedom, history, 9 months ago, In English

On Codeforces there are 10034 users from Russia. 43 (42.8 out of 10000) have a rating above 2600 and participated in 6 months.

On Codeforces there are 14710 users from China. 66 (44.8 out of 10000) have a rating above 2600 and participated in 6 months.

On Codeforces there are 1937 users from the U.S. . 19 (92.9 out of 10000) have a rating above 2600 and participated in 6 months.

On Codeforces there are 28925 users from India. Only 5 (1.7 out of 10000) have a rating above 2600 and participated in 6 months.

Why? India have an amount of users more than the rest three countries combined yet so few high rated users.

Why don't they go for the top?

 
 
 
 
  • Vote: I like it
  • -24
  • Vote: I do not like it

»
9 months ago, # |
Rev. 2   Vote: I like it +68 Vote: I do not like it

Short and Simple Answer : Indians start CP in 2nd year of Engineering and stop CP in 4th year of Engineering.Its very hard to become LGM in 2 years from scratch.If somebody does it, you will see it on leaderboard"

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it +3 Vote: I do not like it

    I second that

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it +5 Vote: I do not like it

    I wish somebody could have told me about Codeforces back then when I was in school but nevermind. :)

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

    Very true. In some colleges students even dont know what cp is

    • »
      »
      »
      8 months ago, # ^ |
        Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

      What the fuck, how is that possible??? In every other country everyone knows about competitive programming from probably middle school! I couldn't even imagine a college where some people don't know what CP is, the concept is so alien to me.

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

    Absolutely...It happens in my college too !!

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it +3 Vote: I do not like it

    And adding on to this, doing CP in highschool isn't a supported option as almost all Indian colleges look at admission through IIT-JEE (entrance exam). So it's either prepare for JEE and get into a good college or do CP and risk it all. It's rare to find someone who is excelling at both.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it -16 Vote: I do not like it

Why don't you have rating above 2600?Why?Why?Why?

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it -12 Vote: I do not like it

Because Indians prepare physics, chemistry, math for JEE from as early as 8th grade to 12th grade.(5 years). After that they enter engineering college and some senior tells them to practice cp for getting sde roles in top product based companies. So almost everybody from all majors(CS, EE, Civil, Mech) starts doing cp even if they do not like it. We do not have any proper guidance for practising cp like they have in russia. People who guide us are noobs(except some like HealthyUG)and have never done cp in their lives. Hope this clears all your doubts.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it -17 Vote: I do not like it

This is very sarcastic post.

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it +30 Vote: I do not like it

    I dont see any sarcasm here. Can you tell me what is sarcastic

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it -32 Vote: I do not like it

According to the blog by ssense, people above purple can't get girlfriends, thatswhy most people prefer to stay in the low rating range. If girls start dating 2600+ people, many people will get to that level.

Indians care about girlfriend more than people from other countries because of low female:male ratio. Hope this answers your question.

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it +8 Vote: I do not like it

    I lost my purple rating in the last contest. Can I get a girlfriend now? (゚ο゚人))

    • »
      »
      »
      9 months ago, # ^ |
        Vote: I like it +34 Vote: I do not like it

      What's your girlfriend going to say: "Oh look here comes my boyfriend, the blue Retarded Ape"

      On a side note, is Thanos a blue retarded ape? It seems pretty stupid for your life goal to be to half the population. For something that grows exponentially that seems almost useless in the long run. I mean, after one generation you'll be right back to where you were before...

      • »
        »
        »
        »
        9 months ago, # ^ |
          Vote: I like it +37 Vote: I do not like it

        I just realized that if you change your name on magic season, this post will look like I'm being super mean if anyone from the future reads it

      • »
        »
        »
        »
        9 months ago, # ^ |
          Vote: I like it +3 Vote: I do not like it

        Never underestimate the constant factor.

      • »
        »
        »
        »
        9 months ago, # ^ |
        Rev. 2   Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

        I guess some people can become red, but can never understand sarcasm lmao.

      • »
        »
        »
        »
        9 months ago, # ^ |
          Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

        Thanos killed half of the plants too.

        He halved the population and he halved the resources as well, no wonder they called him a madman :)

      • »
        »
        »
        »
        9 months ago, # ^ |
          Vote: I like it +3 Vote: I do not like it

        no, sometimes he is a pink retarded ape also

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it -11 Vote: I do not like it

    that way i should be having a lot of gf

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it +4 Vote: I do not like it

    I think somebody follows you too closely, every time you comment something you immediately get down-voted.

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

    getting a lot of downvotes recently. maybe changing color was not such a good idea for u.

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

    Lol, you changed your handle

  • »
    »
    9 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

    Ok, so this is the reason you turned blue. I feel sad for you. devoted you successfully:)

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it +2 Vote: I do not like it

The education system won't let us give our best into it.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

Come to India, you'll understand.
BTW, the main point is already told in the first comment.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it +3 Vote: I do not like it

Reason:

Spoiler
»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it -20 Vote: I do not like it

Please search about toughest entrance exam in the world, you'll get the answer !

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it +12 Vote: I do not like it

I can't speak for other countries, but in the US, the time of most contests is generally not great. This means that people who take contests are generally more dedicated to cp, which has some correlation with being higher rated.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it +3 Vote: I do not like it

i think its obviously related to the mentality with which people do CP. Most, not all, engineering indian students do CP solely to get a job. They don't have intentions to make it to the top, so why do you expect them to? They spend a few months on cp, get a job and quit.

Also according to your stats about 5/10000 indians being >=2600, there are quite a few inactive IGMs in india i think, I'm not personally sure (probably 10 atmost though ig).

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

because of not so much awareness under 10th grade. Also after tenth grade many students start preparing for JEE which is considered a very prestigious exam. Therefore, we end up starting cp only in college.and mostly people leave it after getting a job. they seldom pursue cp as a career.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

CF ratings have nothing to do with birth places. I thought an IM should know well enough in this matter, guess I was wrong.

»
9 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it +9 Vote: I do not like it

Because in India, Education is considered as a tool for survival. The child is taught maths, science, sst, Hindi, English till 10th, then He/She has to choose between PCM/PCB/Commerce. If they take PCM then Prepare for Engineering Entrance Exams and enter an engineering college. By this, he/she is already 18/19 by which many Russians or Chinese coders would have reached Candidate Master.

During College more focus is given on doing assignments, attending classes, etc. and how to prepare for placements by mugging up past few year Questions of FAANG Companies.

Most of the People in India do CP because they just wanted to work in Software Companies or prepare for Placements.

Even if someone would like to do CP of interest then barely the system would allow it.

The single reason why there are very few Red Coders. During the Entire College Life Students could only reach 1800 or 1900+ there are very few who crossed those hurdles and reached milestones.

Like AshishGup, etc. But on the Same time they had sacrificed other things also.

»
8 months ago, # |
  Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

Why the downvotes? Serious discussion happening here.

  • »
    »
    7 months ago, # ^ |
      Vote: I like it 0 Vote: I do not like it

    because it has already been discussed way too much time for being considered as "Serious".