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Neapolis University Pafos

Hello Codeforces!

The series of Educational Rounds continues thanks to the support of the Neapolis University Pafos.

On Apr/29/2024 17:35 (Moscow time) Educational Codeforces Round 165 (Rated for Div. 2) will start.

This round will be rated for the participants with rating lower than 2100. It will be held on extended ICPC rules. The penalty for each incorrect submission until the submission with a full solution is 10 minutes. After the end of the contest, you will have 12 hours to hack any solution you want. You will have access to copy any solution and test it locally.

You will be given 6 or 7 problems and 2 hours to solve them.

The problems were invented and prepared by Adilbek adedalic Dalabaev, Ivan BledDest Androsov, Maksim Neon Mescheryakov, Roman Roms Glazov and me. Also, huge thanks to Mike MikeMirzayanov Mirzayanov for great systems Polygon and Codeforces.

Good luck to all the participants!

UPD: Editorial is out

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Waiting for a good contest!

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Make this comment most disliked comment in CF

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    I guess this is one of the most downvoted comments. I wanted someone to nominate me tho :(

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I hope there will be an interactive problem soon

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Edu time I hope A-E is data structures problems , or 2 of them at least

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All the best guys :) ;

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The penalty for each incorrect submission until the submission with a full solution is 10 minutes. what this line means, how penalties are given in this case. I know only -50 for wrong submission is a type of penalty.

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    • in Edu rounds the leaderboard is sorted Depending on how many problems you solve there is no score

    • but what if there is 2 people have the same number of problems solve they will sum the times of them and sort it by the person who have less time

    • but if person got 2WA on a problem then AC the sum of time will increase by 20 which will give him bad leaderboard place
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Hope able to solve ABC

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I hope I don't get negative delta...

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I wish high rating to participants

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Good luck everyone

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1800 plz!

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Best of luck everyone.

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Very long time no see, Educational Codeforces. I wish this contest teach me a lot.

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pls no guessforces

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My first Educational round. Hop to get positive delta for everybody.

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GLHF

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"I wonder how you folks (BledDest, adedalic, Neon, Roms, awoo) come up with so many tasks. It's like you've been holding Educational Rounds since the invention of sliced bread=)

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Will the 12-hour hacking part give any additional score? Will it be possible to hack the solutions of your room during the contest?

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Hope everyone will not get stuck in A, B and C.

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Please no stupid constructive/guesswork/made sense only to the author type problems like the last two contests.

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Please,I want to pupil

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Good luck && have fun!!!

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It was kinda shitty contest tbh

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C>>>D. 10 minutes for D and 1hr+(multiple WA) for C.

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    Isn't C just a standard dp?

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      ah yes because 2D is standard DP. Someone who actually solved C & D

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    what logic you apply while solve d ?

    I can not solve c and d !!

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      C : 2D DP with n and k. Where DP[i][j] is maximum subtracted from sum in first i elements with j operations. DP[i][j] = max ( DP [i-q-1][j-q] for all q between 0 and j).

      D: Sort all for minimizing Alice's cost. Then, look at all items where Alice pays less than what Bob could pay. Store all of Bob's costs in a min heap priority queue. Bob gets k minimal costs for free. answer = max(sum(Bob) excluding top k elements — sum(Alice)).

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        Thank you bro, I make you my friend! I star on your profile in order to add in my friend list. To be honest, I am not good in heap priority queue and dp. if you have good material to study then please share it with me. my mail id is : [email protected] my linkedin is : https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayambe

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    How could you solve greedy problem more easily than the DP problem ?

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    do you know how to find the testcase which went wrong? as if there are many testcases it is not shown in the submission

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can C be treated like the stack of plates problem where you need to take the top plate before taking any plate under it , and you can only take k plates in total ?

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D <<< C

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    If you don't mind me asking, what was the solution for D?

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      Well, firstly sort things by Bobs cost, if equal sort it in decreasing order by Alice cost. Let's say we want to buy first $$$t$$$ things. For all of them we will get max(0, $$$b_i-a_i$$$), if we will additionally buy any $$$k$$$ things (so Bob will choose them). We just need to maintain sum of $$$k$$$ smallest numbers of $$$a_i$$$ to the right of $$$t$$$ and brute-force $$$t$$$ from left to right.

      Maybe it's a little bit messy, but this is what i have...

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    C was easy DP, maybe a little tricky to implement.

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      DP itself was not intuitive for me, as we are able to replace $$$a_i$$$ not only with $$$a_{i-1}$$$, but also with $$$a_{i+1}$$$.

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        Maybe it's easier if you think about the operation as "choose a subarray [l,r] and replace all elements with the subarray minimum".

        Then dp[i][j] = minimum sum of subarray [0,j] after applying i operations, and you can iterate over the size of the subarray including the element j (can be 1, 2... k).

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          yeah, that is the observation I needed to solve this.

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      It's a dime in dozen occasion, lol. I usually manage to solve more complicated problems, rather than easier ones. IDK why rly...

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Aaaaaaa, I couldn't debug C in time.

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why my solution is failing for C ?

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    It's hard to use greedy for C, or even impossible (I actually think about a lot of ways to use greedy but I found lots of counter examples either, so just use DP is a better approach).

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      Hello DuongForeverAlone sensei, how are you? and plz Can you tell me what is the best way to start DP, so that i can cover all the standard problems of it? and from where? Answer my question Greedily sensei ;)

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        Just do it LOL. I have no idea what is the best way to start. Until now there are much topics in DP I haven't covered yet (some DP optimization techniques for example). Heading to codeforces, leetcode, cses, spoj, ... or any other online judges you know and sort to do DP.

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    I tried difference (Greedy) too, in quite different ways, making array of differences, modifying original array and difference array on each iteration, counting max difference and keep on deleting from the sum. But there is one thing greedy doesn't account for ie repetition in similar differences. Example --> n = 4 k = 2, a = [4, 8, 5, 1] the differences are 4, 3, 4. You chose the first 4 to change, new array is [4, 4, 5, 1] next you choose last 4. final array --> [4, 4, 1, 1], sum = 10 Now in case you choose last 4 to change --> [4, 8, 1, 1] now you choose the difference 7 which gives --> [4, 1, 1, 1], sum = 7.

    I haven't practiced DP but as far as I can see from solutions, people tend to be doing similar thing using DP ie a 2D array to keep track of all changes. (I might be wrong on the DP logic since idk how to use DP). But the problem in greedy you faced is same as mine and I presume many more got stuck here.

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Good contest, I liked the problems.

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Idea for D?

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    Hint: Think in reverse operation order. Suppose you include N elements and want to remove one, what's the optimal strategy for Alice?

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    The model approach is the following one:

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      ah nice explanation, thanks broski

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      Why Bob will take for free most expensive for him, if his goal is to minimize Alice profit? I sorted by $$$b_i-a_i$$$ and got different answer on pretests.

      Upd: Think I got it, Alice already paid for entire subset, so it makes sense to sort by $$$b_i$$$

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      I sorted the lists based on the decreasing differences in values and it WA on test 3. Basically sorted a list of pairs $$$(b[i]-a[i], i)$$$. Why does this idea fail?

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      I believe I have a more "elegant" greedy solution which utilizes different observations so I'd like to share it.

      First observe that if Alice selects fixed $$$M$$$ elements, Bob will take the $$$K$$$ with the largest sum of $$$b_i$$$.

      Next, observe that Alice never wants to take an element if $$$a_i>b_i$$$. Just consider both cases (Bob takes this element and Bob does not take it) and the answer never becomes worse if Alice excludes it.

      Now that we know this, suppose that Alice chooses all elements such that $$$a_i<=b_i$$$, let the count of such elements be $$$l$$$. Let's denote the elements selected by Bob by $$$(a_1,b_1),(a_2,b_2),...,(a_k,b_k)$$$ and the remaining ones by $$$(a_{k+1},b_{k+1}),(a_{k+2},b_{k+2}),...,(a_l,b_l)$$$. We know the total sum for this choice, because Bob chooses greedily the $$$K$$$ largest $$$b_i$$$'s.

      Now what happens if Alice wants to choose $$$l-1$$$ elements?

      We never want to remove an element that is not already chosen by Bob, because it will just reduce the total sum. If we remove an element $$$(a_p,b_p)$$$ that is chosen by Bob, the total sum increases by $$$a_p$$$ and it can trivially be proved that we can never add $$$b_p$$$ to our total sum in the future by performing removals. So it's always optimal to remove the element with the largest $$$a_p$$$ and instead of it insert the one with the largest $$$b_q$$$ such that $$$(a_q,b_q)$$$ is not present in Bob's set.

      We can easily simulate this process using two multisets.

      I didn't write the proof in a formal way here, because it would be lengthy, but one can derive it if they want.

      Here's my submission 258749293

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    If Alice chooses some subset of elements, then Bob will pick the $$$K$$$ elements with the highest values of $$$B_i$$$. If we sort the items by $$$B_i$$$, then this just means Bob will always pick the rightmost $$$K$$$ elements in any subset. Therefore, our array will become split into 2 partitions: the left partition's elements go to Alice, and $$$K$$$ of the elements in the right partition go to Bob (we can choose the ones with lowest $$$B_i$$$).

    We can do the following: Iterate over the size of the right partition from size $$$K$$$ to size $$$N$$$, and maintain the sum of the smallest $$$K$$$ values of $$$B_i$$$ using a multiset. We then calculate Alice's profit as $$$\max(0, B_i-A_i)$$$ for all elements $$$i$$$ in the left partition, which we maintain with a prefix sum array.

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      I skip the problem because I thoug the profit can be negative and that's why I never understood the 3 example, that should be specified in the statement. Upd: now i see you can buy an empty set :(.

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        Was buying empty set not mentioned during contest?

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Best contest ever!!! I very much enjoyed it :)

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great contest, even tho idk how greedy works in D

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I bruteforced sorting criteria for D and resulted in a +7 AC... what a way to live... XD

Anyway, anyone can prove the validity of D? My (greedy) approach is to sort everything, first on Alice's buying cost in increasing order, then Alice's theoretical profit (assuming Bob doesn't take anything for free) in decreasing order.

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    Let's think of a strategy for Bob. If I take s elements (s>k) then he will choose s-k elements with the minimum b. That's obviously true because sum of a is fixed and to minimize the profit Bob will choose the smallest bs. Now, I'm Alice and I know that. Then I wiill check each b. If I fix some b[i], then for all b[j] such that j>i I will choose minimum k as from them. I know that since they are k and Bob will choose minimum bs, he will not choose from them. So now remains the elements in the prefix of i. Any element I will choose in this prefix, Bob will choose it too. So I want all positive profits in this prefix. I'm not sure if this is kind of a proof, but this was my though process.

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can someone please tell why is this giving WA on 3 is there any logic error or bug

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    I also had WA on 3, does someone have a counter example which I may have overlooked?

    "wrong answer 14th numbers differ — expected: '14', found: '13'"

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    try for this test case:

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    1 1 3 9

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    here you will get 0 but answer is 2

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TFW you get a WA a couple minutes before the contest ends and out of supreme luck, you unknowingly click "Mobile Version" on Codeforces and instead of debugging your code, you end up debugging what just happened 🙃

Icing on the cake
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    Tip (to self, others):
    Whenever changing limits like this for debugging purposes — it's probably best to add print statements alongside (so that you remember to fix this as well)
    Alternatively, in languages where there is support for compiler-warnings, add those :)

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I got AC on problem E one minute after the contest ended. The problems were really nice, thanks

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https://codeforces.com/contest/1969/submission/258748770 How to memoize this recursive approach to C ? Or any other recursive solution ?

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what's the idea for c? I couldn't debug my dp solution in time, with mp[j][val] standing for j operations used and the last value being val. since val could be huge, i used unordered_map to store the status. and to avoid space overflow, status with the values that aren't possible to be at the end for current moment need to be erased. or is there a much easier solution?

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    k is less than 10 so you can solve with 2D DP.

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      bruh I thought $$$k \leq n$$$ and couldn't come up with anything. can't believe I have misread that

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        I can't believe that I missed it. regretting a lot now.

        knowing the constraint k <= 10 makes the problem way easier.

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    I did the same but got WA 5 times

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It seems like the time limit of E is too tight. Submission https://codeforces.com/contest/1969/submission/258765134 got TLE on test 25 by using BTreeSet, however, submission https://codeforces.com/contest/1969/submission/258766945 got AC by using HashSet (it was simply replaced BTreeSet as HashSet)

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Can anyone please explain me the DP approach to solve problem c?

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    do dp range and the cost is the min element in range * length of range

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    $$$dp[i][j]$$$ = the minimum sum when we only consider the first $$$i$$$ elements, and perform $$$j$$$ operations. We can do $$$dp[i][j] = dp[i-1][j] + A_i$$$ to do nothing. Suppose we perform $$$x$$$ moves: we convert elements $$$A_{i-x}, ..., A_{i}$$$ to the minimum element in this range (call it $$$min$$$), and the new sum of this range is $$$(x+1)*min$$$. The minimum sum for the remaining elements can be obtained with $$$dp[i-1-x][y]$$$, where $$$y$$$ is the # of moves performed beforehand. Therefore, we do $$$dp[i][x+y] = (x+1)*min + dp[i-1-x][y]$$$ for all pairs $$$(x,y)$$$ where $$$x+y \le K$$$.

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      thanx for explaining the states and transitions

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      If I define dp[i][j], the maximum sum of elements I am able to delete, if I am at index i and perform j operations. Then I subtract the maximum value of dp[i][j] from the total original sum of the array, why am I getting wrong answer ?

      Edit — Resolved. Should have used long long.

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My second educational round, and again not solve C. So educational round means high difficulty??? Both two my edu round solve only AB and rank 3600+ (:_;)

I'm going to be specialist and hope to get my rate back in div3 round a few days later X(

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    C is not too hard, but not too easy in this round. If you take a look at previous Edu round, it is something really different, so it doesn't mean high difficulty

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      Maybe I just to weak in 2D or 3D dp (:_;).

      And I determined to try to come up with a greedy solution, till the end of round. Although I've imagined this is probably a dp, I refused to go ahead because I thought I have little chance to solve a 2D dp problem (x_x;)

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    Or you could do tmrw's Div. 2 and somehow solve A-D :)

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    why u lying?? ur 1. edu u solved ABC

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      Oops, it was two rounds that were really close and I mistakenly remember this, sorry. It was actually the round right after that edu round:(

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Fantastic Edu round as always. Thanks a lot BledDest awoo adedalic Neon Roms and all testers!

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I posted my code of problem D in the last 10 seconds, but the evaluator didn't receive it.

After the contest finished, I reposted my code, and then it was accepted.

Now I wanna die right now.

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Can anyone please check the error in this code for C?

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    we pretty much used the same approach , but the problem meant to be solved using DP and not greedy

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    are you using greedy? well, this case doesn't work for greedy

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C was bit hard for its position.

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    I believe it's my skill issue:) it was a good problem actually

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    hard to implement. Not hard to solve.

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C was obvious dp don't why some people found D easier than C is it because there is some standard idea / technique if so please tell me. Thanks!

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Many solutions to problem A, including mine, are hacked, because of set.

How is it possible? The time complexity is $$$O(t∗n∗(n−1)/2∗4∗log(4))=O(5∗10^7)$$$ which should not work longer, than 2 seconds.

I have solved ABCDE, and would become a master, if my solution to A wasn't hacked :(

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    We'll stay forever this way You are safe in my heart And my heart will go on and on

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    Pardon me if I'm mistaken, The time complexity of your code is O(t∗n∗n∗O(n)) = O(6∗109). As inner clr(set) takes O(n) in every iteration.

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      He always just pushes 4 elements to the set and clears it, so clearing the set doesn't take o(n). It takes o(4).

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    std::set has a lot of overhead as it uses a tree structure, so you end up using a lot of time allocating and deallocating memory, rebalancing the tree, etc.

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    My solution is the same, but the only difference is that you clear the set, I define a new one each time. I think this is the reason why you take more time on the original tests and got hacked.

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      i'm surprised that your solution din't get hacked. this one did get hacked tho. He also created a new set.

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        maybe because he's declaring vectors and calling a solve function? I think the smallest differences can make my 1968ms get tle

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          i found the place or the hole in the code which gives allows the hack to give TLE. Its the fact that the code does n^2 iteration, still no proof how tho. you code does $$$ \frac{n(n-1)}{2} $$$ iterations. I think that can make a proof. I tried both. Your approach just passes with 1999ms. The others don't. and that too if we don't use function call and stuff. A normal while(t--) loop passes barely but doing anything other that will not work. even if you do $$$ j = i+1$$$ it still gives TLE on test 4. creating a vector also doesn't make any different if we do $$$\frac{n(n-1)}{2}$$$ iterations.

          I tried finding the issue but I couldn't and this is the information i was able to discover. any details would be really appreciated by some experienced coder.

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why my solution for problem C 258776010 getting Runtime Error

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For problem E 258747661 should be hackable. I have no proof on the bound of the no of iterations.

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Hi! can someone please point where I'm going wrong in task D. Any help is appreciated :)

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Can anyone tell me where this approach for q3 is going wrong? I'm maintaining a last variable which is what was the last element in vector I'm iterating 258774405 aryanc403 can you help me with this ?

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Can anyone explain what does it mean "Generator is not determinate [the verification run produces different output, cmd =7 4956565656565656564512121], [1100006 bytes, '1000 300 6 151 55 114 76 65 24 12 86 135 38 98 2...290 266 282 34 73 297 245 5 118 261 79 200 35 ', sha1=f0a1c17d87899a11c1db8f805df18da45b1251d5] vs. [1100006 bytes, '1000 300 2 151 55 114 76 65 24 12 86 135 38 98 2...290 266 282 34 73 297 245 5 118 261 79 200 35 ', sha1=a2117fdfb95eb249f578f57f01f328e2a91fc766]."

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    It's a RTE

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    A generator must be deterministic, that is, it must produce the same output every time it's run. If you use RNG, you must set a random seed.

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I solved only one question A will I get rating

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Could someone help me understand how my reasoning for C is wrong? I'm failing cases but I can't understand why 258783884

My thought process was to: keep indexes grouped and sorted by max(a[i]-a[i-1], a[i], a[i+1]) (max diff between its neighbours). Then for each K get the current maximum difference, update the element at i with min(a[i-1], a[i+1]), and keep track of how much the sum is being reduced by. Finally, update diff for (i-1) and (i+1) since arr[i] has been modified.

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I really liked problems D and E!

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Solution on C using DSU

can anyone provide counter example? I don't see any reason why this not working.

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    You are applying a greedy algorithm, i.e. merging the immediate best, rather than doing a deeper search.

    For example,

    1 5 2 20 10 19 28

    Your algorithm will see the largest difference (20-10) and merge them, and then merge 19 together, totaling 10+10+10+28 = 58. but the optimal solution would be 20+10+10+10 = 50

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I just spent quite a while debugging my solution to C, which I was confident was correct but failed on test 5 due to a runtime error. It turns out that it was a stack overflow error, and after I increased the stack size, my solution passed (original, with increased stack size). I feel that I should have gotten credit for my original solution during the contest since it would have passed within the given time and memory constraints and only failed due to a restriction in the judging environment.

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I have solve the problem E by Monotonic Stack in O(n).

The submission

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Idea for c ?

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looking forward to the tutorial

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How to solve E?

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    let st[i] be the largest j so that j < i and the subarray [j, i] is not unique (if j doesnt exist, st[i] = inf).

    Now, if st[i] < i (for i = 1 -> n), we have a segment [st[i], i], now the problem becomes: calculate the minimum number of black points so that each segment contains at least 1 black point. It's easy to solve using deque and dp.

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do we have penalty for wrong hacking attempt?

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Could someone explain why this solution was hacked in problem A? Here's the link to the submission: link. It's supposed to be ( n^2 ) and should pass. Can someone verify if the test validator is working correctly?

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    made a mistake, but set has a high overhead for each operation.

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Good edu round :)

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Can someone please suggest problems that are similiar to Yesterday's 2C

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specialist in this contest, only able to solve A and B but in 10 mins so i got descent rank.

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Could someone please tell me why this contest didn't count towards my rating? I did the registration as usual

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    We just need to wait for the update of the ratings. It usually takes a few hours after the contest end.

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where's the contest?

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Until the editorial gets published, can anyone provide some help regarding problem F? I've been thinking of some DP, where $$$dp_i$$$ = number of coins you can get if you start with a full unique deck and have the last $$$i$$$ cards in the stack. I tried to come up with the transitions but I am missing something. Thank you in advance!

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    Assuming “full unique deck” means one card of each number, you’re on the right track. In terms of transitions, here are some questions to think about:

    1. Suppose you want to transition from turn i to turn j. How can you determine which cards to discard on turn i in order to end up with cards 1..k on turn j? (Try writing out a few small cases.)
    2. How does discarding cards affect the number of pairs you can make? (It helped me to think about your DP state as minimizing the number of pairs you eliminate from the deck. How does discarding a card with an odd number of occurrences differ from discarding a card with an even number of occurrences?)
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      Thank you very much, the confirmation that I am on the right track motivated me to keep going. I just got AC on it

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Congrats to OliviaRodrigo who did very well on the contest! Big fan of your songs here!!

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For problem B pre-test did'nt include overflow cases. :cry

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    you using long long for ans i dont think its overflow

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      its overflow check my new submission.

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        yeh i see now , next time make sure use long long everywhere. thats the same thing happened to me one time now i use long long mostly.

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Why are these two codes the same, but one Ce and one Ac? When the hack ended, it was still Ac, but now it looks like it has changed to Ce. 258710579 and 258844106. I need some help.

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Will the rating changes before 942??

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Could someone explain me why this https://codeforces.com/contest/1969/submission/258724763 code for B got AC on pretests and now is getting WA on test 1? I understand why it fails but why didnt it got WA on the same test during the contest?

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    i think they know there is some problem thats why rating still not updated

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    It's probably cause by ub(undefined behavior). You tried to get the front of an empty deque in int first=v.front();. And maybe in the pretest, this behavior somehow get a value that can pass test 1.

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      How does undefined behavior work? Because it had to give a correct answer for every case formed only by '0's, and if it was so, why not after pretest?

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        As it's name, it's undefined and we can't predict how it works. It's up to the compiler. Maybe you have extreme luck in pretest and passed temporarily, and your luck disappeared in main test.

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          I had understood it works like that but seems I just had incredibly bad luck. Thanks for replying and have a good day

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I realize that the optimal answer for C was 2D DP, however many contestants came up with 3D DP n*k*k, leading to MLE Any suggestions on how to remove the MLE

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