Problem 478B

Revision en2, by ebanner, 2016-06-11 22:47:14

This problem gave me a great deal of trouble when I first encountered it. I figured out quickly enough that the answer to the maximum case was to make the largest team possible while putting as many participants in groups of size 1 to fulfill the requirement of having m groups. I also figured out that the solution for the minimum case was to put students in as "uniform" of groups as possible. It was figuring out how to put students in uniform groups which was the challenge.

In hindsight, my main difficulty was that I was lacking the interpretation of n % m necessary for this problem. The perspective that has worked 99% of the time for me was to view the quantity n % m as the number r such that n = k*m + r, where 0 <= r < m. Intuitively, this can be thought of as repeatedly adding m until it gets within m of n and then calling the remainder r. Another way to view this procedure is that we are making as many groups of size m out of n as we possibly can. Unfortunately this problem calls for making exactly m groups, which are almost certainly not of size m.

As a review, n / m expresses the answer to each of the two questions:

  • we have n pieces and want to split them into groups of size m. how many groups are there?
  • we have n pieces and want to split them into m groups. how many are in each group?

Since % and / are intimately related, % also can be interpreted in both of these ways. To illustrate the first interpretation of %, consider the example 8 % 3. We can arrive at the answer using the following procedure:

(3 + 3) + 2 = 8.

Hence 8 % 3 = 2. This works when 8 % 3 as the number of pieces left over after making groups of size three. However, if we want to use the interpretation of making 3 groups, we need to do a little bit more work. In order to illustrate this perspective, notice the following illustration of 8 / 3:

2.67 2.67 2.67

That is, to make 3 groups out of 8 pieces we need 2.67 pieces in each group. But notice the following manipulation:

2.67 2.67 2.67 = (2 + 2 + 2) + (.67 + .67 + .67) = (2 + 2 + 2) + 2

History

 
 
 
 
Revisions
 
 
  Rev. Lang. By When Δ Comment
en27 English ebanner 2016-08-14 17:35:13 39 Tiny change: 'rite, but actually we can no' - (published)
en26 English ebanner 2016-08-14 17:27:58 2 Tiny change: 'to create m teams as ' -> 'to create `m` teams as '
en25 English ebanner 2016-08-14 17:27:31 130 Tiny change: ' quantity n / m denotes i' - (saved to drafts)
en24 English ebanner 2016-06-13 04:12:32 3 Tiny change: 'cipant to different teams. As a res' -> 'cipant to a different team. As a res'
en23 English ebanner 2016-06-13 04:11:59 3 Tiny change: 'rticipants)! All that ' -> 'rticipants!). All that '
en22 English ebanner 2016-06-13 04:11:12 74 Tiny change: 'rite, but we can no' -
en21 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:45:49 12 Tiny change: ' However, this problem requires ' -> ' However, Problem 478B requires '
en20 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:44:53 2 Tiny change: '%m.\n\nIn English, Eq' -> '%m.\n\nIn english, Eq'
en19 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:41:36 42 Tiny change: 'nd up with the following equation:\n\nn = (n' - (published)
en18 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:38:51 140 Tiny change: ' English, this can be re' - (saved to drafts)
en17 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:28:32 11 Tiny change: 'th how to quantify that. Thi' -> 'th how to compute that. Thi'
en16 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:26:07 75
en15 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:23:25 28
en14 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:21:42 133 Tiny change: 'nts.
en13 English ebanner 2016-06-12 20:11:08 301 Tiny change: 'buting n people into m te' - (published)
en12 English ebanner 2016-06-12 19:58:36 2947 Tiny change: 'ially. My understan' - (saved to drafts)
en11 English ebanner 2016-06-12 18:59:07 87
en10 English ebanner 2016-06-12 18:54:04 57 Tiny change: 'ave:\n\n8 % 3 = 3*2 + 2' - (published)
en9 English ebanner 2016-06-12 18:45:19 531 Tiny change: 'possible. It was figu' -
en8 English ebanner 2016-06-12 17:50:02 776 Tiny change: '2 + 2.\n\nHere we stripped off the d' -
en7 English ebanner 2016-06-12 17:37:47 898 Tiny change: '; (n/m)*m _(1)_\n\n' -
en6 English ebanner 2016-06-12 17:12:48 2108 (saved to drafts)
en5 English ebanner 2016-06-12 00:02:01 693 Tiny change: 'ins is to the remaining n % m par' - (published)
en4 English ebanner 2016-06-11 23:50:24 1111 Tiny change: ' related, n % m als' -
en3 English ebanner 2016-06-11 23:35:23 523 Tiny change: '7 + .67)\n ' -
en2 English ebanner 2016-06-11 22:47:14 871
en1 English ebanner 2016-06-11 22:00:44 1291 Initial draft (saved to drafts)