TLDR: This war is Forced by the US/NATO on the Ukrainian people.
I am not saying Whatever Russia is doing, is acceptable if killing civilians. Russians and Ukrainians are like brothers. I am saying how the US/EU/NATO is killing Ukrainians by sending more weapons to prolong this and staying out of this. The USA is fueling this war and look they are staying out of it.
They made Ukraine sign an NPT( Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) in 1994 and made them believe that they will protect but see the real picture. Zelensky said only that west is betraying Ukraine a few days back but later they started supporting a bit so that their allies do not panic. But this little help will help Ukraine? Do you think 50 fighters and a few thousand guns will stop Russia? If they are really adamant to help then why do not they add you to EU/NATO even after your request?
See what Pentagon Just said.
Pentagon Press Secretary says the US will not set up a no-fly zone in Ukraine.
Seriously? They can not do even this?
Let's be open-minded for a bit. I know I might get a heavy downvote but I do not care.
Also, Western countries do not include little European countries here.
I am mostly referring to USA/UK/GERMANY(Influencing NATO/SWIFT).
Motivated from here. https://codeforces.com/blog/entry/100262?#comment-890090
Dilemma:
Well, I am not Russian, and totally against the war, but here is a question:
Isn't Saudi Arabia actively harming innocent people (among militants) and children in Yemen? Isn't Israel actively killing innocent people (among militants) in Syria?
Why aren't "world powers" condemning such actions? Are some humans more human than others? The more you think about it, this is less about human rights (is that still a thing?) and more about "money talks."
In any case, any war is a bad war that does no good to humanity and normal people and destroys infrastructure.
Theory/Answer:
Here is why these western countries do not condemn these attacks when happen in Asian/African countries. They think they are better than us and their lives are more important than ours. They think their security concerns are legitimate but Russian Security concerns are not worthy to consider. Why does USA/NATO like to create conflicts?.
Simple to sell weapons to the world.If there is peace in the world. How will the USA sell its weapons?
How USA is expanding NATO year by year.Why the fuck USA needs to come all the way near Russia when it is on the other side of the water.
If you really want to see why western countries are a threat to humanity. Take a look at President Putin's speech.
Ok, let's see you do not believe President Putin, Take a look at US TV channels now.
READ THESE IMAGES:
Now you might agree a bit on west's Hypocrisy. As I told they think they are more supreme than the rest of the world.How so?
They think Ukrainian refugees are worthy to stay in their countries and they put Asian/African refugees to camps and declare them, terrorists, even.
PS-1: I am not a Russian, I am an Indian and I am just seeing on social media how these western social media companies like google/meta/youtube are spreading western narratives and suppressing the truth by deleting Russian supported facts. I saw a poll and 98 percent of Indians trust Russia as a reliable partner and only 2 percent support west. However, India has good relations with both.
You have seen these pictures but most of them are fake.
PS-2: I know this time is hard for Innocent Russians(they did not choose this) as their economy might crumble due to the SWIFT ban/sanctions. But one thing I know for sure is that this will make Russia more independent and more self-reliant in the long term as they will develop counter tools to fix these issues. Also, this will end US hegemony in the next few years as more countries like China /India(potential USA economy challengers in the next 10 to 20 years) are now seeing how the US is leveraging such tactics. West is on the decline(as people say America will kill America itself) and Asia is rising in the 21st century.
PS-3: I strongly agree that Ukrainian civilians should not suffer this. But the USA is using Zelensky as a tool to force civilians to fight with Russia even after knowing that if Russia wants to take Kyiv with heavy civilian casualties they can take within a day. I really feel for the Ukrainian people's plight. So sad more now.
PS-4: If you are ever in doubt who is creating chaos in the world and you want to guess you can safely guess the "USA".
Check this interesting meme about Putin
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These are very good examples of how retarded some of the US media really are. But you can easily find such examples in every country around the world. If you need an example from your side of the world, just find someone who threatens the Muslim community in your country.
As I said, every country is fundamentally broken, but that does not mean that we should be fine with war. I have seen many military conflicts so far, but not a single one was as devastating and inhuman as what is happening right now in Ukraine. Feel free to prove me wrong.
Add a source. I have asked a friend and he thinks that India is cool and Russia is not. Now you can tell that you have seen a pool that 100% of people that were pooled support India and not Russia.
That still sounds like a much better alternative than bombarding their cities or threatening to use nuclear weapons to end the world we know.
Thousands of students from India and China study in the US and other western countries. Do they also think that "the west", as you call it, is an evil hegemon that corrupts the world?
I wish you all the best in India, I think it is a beautiful country, full of great people and I really hope you will at least try to understand the perspective of others, especially Ukrainian people that just want to be free.
The problem with 'you can easily find such examples in every country around the world' is that the majority of the most read news sources in the world are all based in the US/UK, like google news, NYTimes, CNN, BBC, Fox, and Guardian.
So US news affects people worldwide a lot more than news from other countries do.
And to reply your comment on students, in the past a ton of Chinese students went to America and most never came back, but now, as they feel China getting pretty good, a lot are returning after school.
Here is an example of the poll. https://twitter.com/FltLtAnoopVerma/status/1498340417125097472
I am not saying Ukrainians deserve this. They definitely are innocent.Agree that.
But Russians are not Innocent this way?
Why not just punish Putin if there is a way? All Russians are involved in this decision? Do they want to lose all their money in a stock crumble?
All western media is doing the same. I can show you 10s of such examples even with so-called Unbiased media BBC.
What about Donetsk and Luhansk's atrocities?
What about Minsk Agreement?
What about Misusing Russian Subsidies and Soviet Union policies?
Also what about beating Indian students by Ukrainian just because India abstains in the UN?
Do you think your Leadership should put Civilians to face a Mighty Army? Why kill Innocents?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Ukraine#:~:text=On%20December%205%2C%201994%20the,a%20preamble%20and%20six%20paragraphs.
Read above.
Why USA/Britain is not coming to help citing NPT? You do not feel betrayed by West?
I am not saying Whatever Russia is doing, is amazing. I am saying how the West is killing your people by sending more weapons to prolong this and staying out of this.
What will happen to your country infra/GDP if this continues? Would not it become a new Syria/Afg?
You do not want to care about Russia's Security concerns?
Why not show real pictures rather than deleting Russia-pro sentiments by social giants and Using Bots to trend Western Propaganda? Let the world know both sides and decide.
I'm sorry, but Twitter polls aren't the best source.
There are "bubbles" of followers on Twitter.
For instance, someone who is a fan of soccer team X is more likely to follow this team than someone who doesn't.
In the same way, if team X asks who's the best team, there's a high chance that the votes will be headed towards team X. After all, who follows team X is probably a fan of team X.
I'm not sure if the account you posted is pro-Russian, pro-American, or pro-whatever, but these aren't reliable methods to do research.
You are a codeforces veteran, do you really believe he wants to debate or discuss anything? His account was revived after a year and a half just for this. He is a troll or propagandist.
Low-hanging fruit: World War 2? I'm not sure what qualifies for "seen", the most intuitive definition would be what you're familiar with rather than what you were part of (which I highly suspect would narrow it down to $$$\emptyset$$$ for you). We can start from there and narrow it down.
Although I don't support any war but I have to say that one day history is going to judge us on how we responded to Ukraine compared to Iraq, Libya, Syria and Palestine.
Don't keep updating your blog with small changes every few minutes just to force it to stay on the recent actions.
You only added a single newline on your latest revision...
I am not forcing anything just adding more validations.
You can update your blog without adding an auto-comment of the update. Just uncheck the box before updating.
Really confused how did you get to this TLDR. After reading your whole blog, there are no explanation on how US/NATO are forcing the war. Yes, you did provide some fractional informations, but they don't even seem strong enough to overweigh the fact that Putin invaded Ukraine.
About the US-Afganistan thingy, along with the other incidences you've provided, yes all of them are true, and they're heavily criticized till these days, both domestically and globally.
Do you know one of the most powerful tool used by politicians all around the world is spreading propaganda of "us vs them"? China and Russia are really famous for it, as their entire political system is built over it, but not just them. USA does it too. My country, South Korea, has done it against North Korea in the past, and against Japan in recent time. It's really easy for people who aren't aware of it to fall for it, as it's one of our primal instinct.
There are no single entity of "bad USA" that acts as a source of evil. Neither are "bad China" or "bad Russia". It's just some political leaders making decisions, and China and Russia are prone to be mentioned a lot as they have been ruled by the same leaders for very long times, and these leaders act like a god itself, ruling above all human rights and their own laws.
Most of the world are currently supporting Ukraine due to humanatarian crisis caused by the war, and you should stop using it as a tool to spread Putin's propaganda. If you've written this blog on your own, I am sincerely worried about you. Please wake up.
So have you done anything to sanction the United States? And you don't know china and russia well.
I have not done anything to sanction any countries, and I doubt that's an experience that a person can have except for like selected few.
Yes maybe I don't know these countries well enough. Not sure how it's related to my point tho.
Seriously, Please read the history after world war 2. The USA once banned Iran from SWIFT around 2012 even after EU countries did not want it. The USA controls the flow of dollars and hence its central bank in New York controls the SWIFT transactions. The USA does anything they want. They have killed millions of people in Iraq/Syria/Afghanistan. They have hit multiple time wrong targets which had caused massive civilian casualties. In explanation they say, It was an intelligence failure. Seriously you would destroy a country because of Intelligence failure? No Shame? I never heard a Western country condemning this and bringing this to the UN. Why because the USA controls west.No one dares to challenge in the west.
PS: If you take a look at Geopolitics and experts' opinions the USA wants Israel(a US ally) to fight in middle-east indirectly. They fuel this war so that Middle-east and Israel both can buy weapons from them. I have heard this strategy coming out since Obama Gov.
It has 800 military bases around the world. Seriously for what? Just to meddle in other countries internal affairs.
The USA has started a NATO membership plan just to counter Russia in since last few months. If you observe, this is a war between Russia and USA but Ukraine is a scapegoat. It is a shame that the People of Ukraine are dying and these western countries are now providing Humanitarian support and few fighter jets.
Nelson Mandela as said:
If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America.
Don't justify using the situation in ukraine to spread your propaganda with the USA's government's wrongdoings. It's very sad that you still don't get it.
I know you come from the west and are a close USA ally. Totally understand your pain. I am telling you everything out of Ukraine. Iraq is in Ukraine?
You've made this thread in the context of the situation in Ukraine. You're clearly not telling everything out of it. I feel like I'm trying to communicate with a rock... Have you even read the original comment of mine?
No investigation, no voice.
Well, the current conflict is on a different scale, potentially even leading to WW3. Just imagine that the USA elected some eccentric president and suddenly invaded Canada to annex it and liberate the English speaking population from their Canadian government. Because this government is somehow very bad for whatever ridiculous made-up reasons. Oh, and because there is a footage of a Canadian border guard roughing up some Indian dude, the whole India is now cheering up for the killing of Canadian civilians by the USA army. This is very absurd and surreal, but that's what the current Russian invasion looks like from where I stand.
The fact of the matter is that the largest country in the world is trying to annex even more territory just because they are (or at least they believe that they are) strong enough to do this. Who is going to be their next target? Also can we be sure that the other countries are not going to feel encouraged to follow their example and rush to use military force for solving their territorial disputes? And things may quickly go nuclear.
What if Canada would like to join Warsaw Pact?
I don't see what's the problem. Can you explain it to me?
It is not on a very different scale and not very different then what west has been doing to other countries for long time. They still have military presence and bombing other countries. America still occupies a third of Syria. They are still drone striking various countries. Among the people that killed in drone strikes 9 out of 10 people are civilians. Israel still attacking Syria and annexing Palestinian lands. They also annexed Syrian lands. Remember Julian Assange?
So what is the difference between Russia invading Ukraine and America invading middle east or Latin American countries? The difference is that countries and organizations are acting the way they should have done to US, Israel, UK and other NATO members and Saudi Arabia too. But they don't. They only acting this way because Russia is their enemy.
What Russia doing deserves condemnations. But why only Russia? Why that double Standard? Is some life worth more than others? When will fifa, olympic ban US, UK and other nato members and Its war monger allies like Saudi Arabia?
Not sure I understand the blog correctly. So the NATO should do more by, for example, setting up a no-fly zone over Ukraine (in practice, send NATO planes directly agains Russian planes.) but at the same time NATO shouldn't expand more and this expansion is a threat to other countries?
It is very sad to see such discriminatory comments by some individuals regarding the ethnicity of refugees. However, to understand the extent of this discrimination against African or Asian refugees in Europe, we can try to look at the statistics of refugees in Germany:
"In the middle of 2021, Germany reported almost 1.24 million refugees and 233 000 asylum seekers, making it the biggest host country for refugees in Europe. Half of the refugees are from Syria. Germany also hosts 27 000 stateless persons. At the same time, Germany supports the worldwide work of UNHCR: for years, the country has been the second biggest bilateral donor after the US."
source: https://www.unhcr.org/germany.html
This is probably only a small fraction of refugees in the world, but it doesn't exactly sound like they are heavily discriminatory on this.
In the recent years, the attitudes against taking as many refugees as before have grown stronger. In the light of this, happily welcoming people from Ukraine might indeed sound discriminatory. I also have no doubt that the attitudes towards the refugees from Ukraine would be influenced by perceived similarity to the main population. By how much? That's another question. One explanation to "Why take refugees from Ukraine but not from a refugee camp" might be something related to the immediate danger in a country in war compared with a miserable, but not immediately life-threatening situation in refugee camps. Of course this in not very good explanation in any way.
Another reason for more welcoming attitudes towards people from Ukraine might be that, at least so far, most of people escaping from Ukraine have been women and children. Currently Ukraine doesn't let men capable of fighting exit the country. At least in my country, there is a widespread attitude that "It's men's duty to stay and protect their country". Of course this is also discrimination (against men) but at least not racism.
I'm not trying to defend discrimination but just pointing out possible alternative explanations.
Also I'm not sure how "more welcoming" the attitudes towards Ukrainian people really are. I'm sure there are great number of people in Europe that were/are just as much welcoming towards other refugees.