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By chenye3N, history, 2 months ago, In English

I'm in China.Because of the time difference,almost every contest starts at 22:35.My mother thought it was too late,and she disagreed.What should I do?

 
 
 
 
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how old are you? i think you can try to tell her more about competitive programming, why you find it fun and what you could possibly achieve.

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    I tried this,but she thought schoolwork such as math is the most important.

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      math IS important

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      when do you come home from school? you can plea with her to let you spend time practice CP after you're done with homework.

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        About 22:00,our school is CRAZY.It has evening self-study.

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          Wow, then you have 0 free time or what?

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            Give you a little China shock!

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          So suppose you go to school 7o clock in morning what do you do all day in school?

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      You are right.My math teacher Wang Zhen doesn't allow me to learn OI.

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It depends how old are u? She should be proud of u most people spend night playing video games but u are trying to acheive ur dream , If u are more than 14 try to convince her

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Ask her to focus on kitchen instead

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    Exactly what I was thinking. He could have said something like, how can I persuade my mom to let me participate in CF contests but he said it as if he was referring to his mom and I lmao hard before opening this blog.

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make her agree

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Try "If u don't let me I won't eat food" or "If u don't let me I'll leave home"

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    Bro, that's not a permanent solution.

    That will make your generation gap larger,break your relationship in family,and it'll be even much harder to persuade her that time...

    I have one way:In China,taking part in OI(CP's name in China) such as CSP and NOIP can make more opportunities to go to a good university(such as THU and PKU).You can show your mom some result when you search on the Internet.(Share her this page as well!)OIer who were in IOI National Training Team can straightly go to any university in China whichever they wanted.If you cannot,you can get about 10 to 80 extra points in Gaokao(out of 750).A famous saying:"You get one more point in Gaokao and you'll overtake a whole footbal playground of students."That is true,and the only dream of Chinese parents is just to want us to get good grades in Gaokao and go to good university,and will certainly get a good-salary job.And the same in Self-directed Admission of good universities.

    If you are in strong provinces such as ZJ,schools also encourage student to take part in and your mother can ask teachers or other parents of students.If you are in a weak province such as YN,you can know on the Internet that those who made a great,unbelievable miracles also took part in one of the five subject competition.That'll make your mom support you.

    All in all,as a student in China,I know that OI is a long and hard way,but finally it will be fruitful and meaningful.Come on,every OIer!Good luck!

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      Yes,I think you are right. (I'm in ZJ)

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      Sorry for my bad sense of humor

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      you can get about 10 to 80 extra points in Gaokao (out of 750)

      I have a question. I heard that the policy for Gaokao has changed. If you are not admitted to the national training team you just gain nothing, not a single extra point for Gaokao.

      Is that true? Can students still get benefits (I mean benefits on Gaokao and universities) if they gain prizes in NOIP or NOI?

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        Yes, it's no longer useful in the gaokao. But these scores can help you in independent college admissions. Of course, if you get into the training team, you can choose from all the universities in China.

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What is your goal when you participate in contests? Rating? Solving interesting problems? If it is the latter, you can always virtual participate or upsolve. So there only exists that you want to increase rating. Now, codeforces has contests in a comfortable time for you, so just participate in these contests instead! Yes, you will probably get more rating if you participate in more contests, but if your ability is increasing, the increase of rating will follow. When you complain about not enough contests to participate in, there are still users that can get to GM/IGM/LGM with very few contests.

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    But when I meet something I can't solve,I always read editorials.I can't change.

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      People generally get better trying to solve problems without editorial, then learn from editorial. If you want to get better at contests and time management you cant try virtual participation. Then, as previously said, you can get great rating in a few contests that are actually in your timezone.

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Practice more in your free time without contests and convince your mom to participate in few contests, like tell her you will participate in a contest every week. Maybe she thinks it's every night or so.

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If you're still in middle school, you shouldn't stay up at night just for a CF contest. Really not worth it. But if you're older, explain to her why there won't be much problem if you stay up late, why you need to do the contest and, what you will get from doing it. You can try virtual participation if you can't stay up at night.

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    It is true. In China, a good score is important and give u much convenient.

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go on a hunger strike

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I seldom partcipate in Codeforces contests because of this either.

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Well, 3hr contest indeed ends too late. If I was your parent, I will only allow you to take 2hr contest.

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I think it's impossible

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Usually i could only do 1-2 problems in Div.2, so i said to my mother that i will only participate for half an hour(I think it's enough for doing these problems).

If you're not competing for rating, you can choose 1-2 problems that you think the difficulty is fit 4 you.

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    That's such a bad strategy for improvement
    If you want to solve 1-2 appropriately rated problems, just upsolve

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  • Persuade your grandmother to join codeforces contests
  • Persuade your mother to take inspiration from her mother
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    then the blog changes to How Can I Persuade My Grandmother to Join Codeforces Contest?

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    I misread grandmother as grandmaster. Am I ok?

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use CONTRADICTION method it works

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In china, if i am not mistaken, competitive coding, ioi medals etc., help a lot in university entrances. Isn't that enough for her?

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    This what I heard as well, plus the earlier the one starts, the better they will be.

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      indeed, and also competitive coding is so much fun. i regret i couldn't find it in high school :/. i started recently and i am in final year at university :(

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    You understand that chances of him getting in china IOI team is exceptionally low right? If he is very smart — low chances. otherwise 0%.

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      yeah, but starting competitive coding/math competitions etc at an early age makes you more interested in academics and hence very useful imo.

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Thanks Finally I made my decision to block recent actions from my side bar. Rather than being useful these days, it is becoming day by day worst and +89 contribution for this post ? Just making a joke on people writing so many useful blogs and contributing a lot

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Tell her to read this blog and the comments.

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Persuade her to compete together with you.

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WTF??

Finished your homework as early as possible, get a high score, then persuade her to join codeforces contest :)

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Don't give contests they are very hard.
You get minus most of the time.
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Virtual participation » is enough.
《听妈妈的话》 -- Jay Chou

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Do the contest under your bed sheets and pretend to be asleep when she comes in. Also crazy how your mom doesn't want you to do Codeforces contest. It's not even a video game...

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Hey share us the handle here when you succeeded :)

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We all hope she will agree! What's her account? We will follow her progress.

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Well,thank you for this post.I am 14 and live in YN.I found that I am really lucky to have such kind and understanding mom.When I take part in a CF contest,although she always says that she will leave me to sleep,but each time she always she stays up with me till I finished.My mom is always there to listen to me and encourage me to do what I like.Even in the weakest province of OI and I do not have a C++ teacher,I still can get good grades in CSP.My mom plays an important part in my improvement.Perhaps this is common in your country,but my mom is one of those rare parents like this in China.Thanks,mom!

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tell her to stick to the kitchen

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    lol

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    based and red-pilled

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      got negative contribution lol

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        Obviously, this ain't reddit

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          i don't use any social media :(

          i also realised latter that comment was bad and insulting

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          Reddit is full of libs, I have had several reddit accounts banned for saying stuff thats way less "problematic" than this. So maybe you have 4chan and reddit mixed up in your mind?

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Is 0:35 too late for sleeping ? (Seems like a lot of Chinese people go to sleep after 0:00 , you can try to take a nap at noon to avoid drowsiness)

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I'n from China and I'm always on CF

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    That's because you can just use the vjudgian theorem to sleep in O(1) time.

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Participate at weekends.

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Just same to me, i'm from Vietnam and when contest starts it's 21:35, I only have 1 hours to solve problem before my mother forced me to go to bed.

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Same for me, the timing is weird for me, contests at the end of the day is tiring. Why must it always be at the same time? The time should be randomized

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Sleep before the contest for 1 hour or something. Get up at 21:40 to avoid drowsiness during contest.

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I guess you your mom is too old for Competitive Programming xd.

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you should try to motivate her and understand her that anyone can do anything if he want it purely

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CF is not the only source of contests.

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tell your mother if I give the contest then I will win something big

and tell her that I do a good thing investing my night and trying to develop myself

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If she wants to learn then you can try virtual contest too.!

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Ask her to take part in CF contests and have fun solving problems!!!

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    Or you can try AtCoder(atcoder.jp,a CP contests website like CF in Japan),the time is much more normal for Chinese.